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Email received on Feb 22 2006 - correspondence forwarded by Christine and Mike Ashton

 

  THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM HOLLAND AND GERMANY ABOUT THE FAILURE TO VACCINATE
BIRDS IN GERMANY AND THE PROBLEMS IT IS CAUSING .

Get this in the UK media We are sending it to every newspaper over here. We
got permission to vaccinate the hobby birds IN HOLLAND Brussels agreed on
our ministers proposal BUT WE MUST HELP THE GERMANS NOW.  Have they gone mad over there!


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Van: Verzonden: woensdag 22 februari 2006 12:22
Aan: Onderwerp: Re: Newspaper article

Dear A

Now the first zoos over here starts preventive killing. Augsburg
(Bavaria) tried to penn-in and gave some birds and poultry away, the
rest had been slaughtered. A small zoo in Bad Mergentheim (Svabia)
killed nearly 50 animals. Ducks, geese, chickens, turkeys and a peacock.
Brandenburg is promising prison to keepers, if they donīt keep poultry
in and it will be infected!
My friend informed the german press about the killing of its geese. They
called the vetenarian authority and now this want another date for
killing. They donīt want to have TV talk about. If the story is printed
or sended Iīll inform you immediately.
Today, our Minister Seehofer have to tell, why his actions in
eastgermany are full of mistakes and mismanagement. Greens and FDP want
to put pressure on him. They also want vaccination and itīs sadly true,
with Mrs. Künast we would have really other measures. She told 2003
that penning-in isnīt an effective solution, and sheīs against it.

We just try to find out, if fish meal inside poultry-feed could bring
AI. In Asia they have integrated aquacultures, which means that poultry
is kept over fish ponds to feed the fish or to dung the ponds with the
poultry excrements. Most of the worlwide used fish meal is from asia.
2/3 from china. The EU also allows feeding fish meal to poultry and
swines! Itīs a theory, but it is possible that the AI has been spread
over asia and europe by that. Another possibility is, that wildbirds
rest on such ponds and get AI by this. With some friends, some of them
birdexperts and virologists, Iīm working on a press-release about that.
But itīs very difficult to find serious proofs. Maybe you want to
recherche about that interesting case in Netherland too? Here we run
against walls. Noone want to talk about, if we ask for. But I think we
have enough material for the press ;).

Best regards,
Al

>Dear Al
>Oh my god what mess over there. I'm so sorry to hear about your friend his
>geese. I wished I would have been closer to you so we could get some of his
>geese over here. Have a small barn left but we could have build another
tent next to it. Geese aren't allowed to be vaccinated because they say they
>don't know how much vaccin they need and that there aren't enough test
>results on vaccinating geese. Rubbish of course as France wants to
vaccinate it's geese but as you know that's commercial meat! Only the money
counts
and that's the real issue why they don't start vaccinating all over Europe.
Take a look at Hong Kong....they stopped it over there because they started
to
vaccinate. Our minister knows that and therefore he wants to start
>preventive vaccinating. Every vet over here wants to start. Get your hand
onas many e-mail addresses of newspapers over there and send them this kind
of information. Try if Michael von Luttwiz from the Geflügel Börse can help.
>Get the chairman of the German poultry association active. You do have to
do something like over here to try and save the hobby birds. The government
>thinks they have all the power but they do forget they are only humans too.
>I know they lie, same as in the UK. Some try over here too but we don't
>allow it. We get in touch with the newspapers and at this moment they
>contact us. Other way around. At last! Said yesterday to my husband: I
>wished the Germans still had their old government with Schreuder and the
>green ones. They should have allowed vaccination more easily. Are you sure
>they kill poultry all over Germany? Maybe we can get some attention on that
>from over here to put them in a "bad daylight". Do you mind if I pass your
>e-mail on to Christine and to my contact with our newspaper? I've got a
very
>good contact with our newspaper since last week concerning the AI problems
>and hobby birds.
>
>Take care!
>A

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>Van:
>Verzonden: woensdag 22 februari 2006 10:34
>Onderwerp: Re: Newspaper article

>Dear A
>That youīre not allowed to vaccin your geese is very sad. I donīt
>understand the arguments against, because in France the poultry that
>would be vaccined are esspecially geese and ducks.
>Here in Germany, the situation became very dangerous for poultry and its
>keepers. Not because of AI, but of itīs prevention. The possibility of
>keeping poultry outside combined with AI-testing isnīt allowed anymore.
>If you canīt keep your poultry inside, they come and kill it. This is
>happening now to a friend of mine. He canīt penn-in his eleven geese,
>because heīs not allowed to build a new stable and he lives near a
>little river with a lake. Now we have thaw in Germany and his ground
>will be floated. So he canīt build a aviary too. He asked his vetenarian
>authority for help, to find a place for his geese. But they wonīt help
>him, they just will kill his geese. Iīm so sad, his oldest one is nearly
>20 years old and heīs keeping geese over 50 years now. Officially the AI
>have only reached our eastcoast, but I donīt believe that. They kill
>poultry all over Germany :(.
>My ducks are inside an aviary and I have really fear, that they will
>find a dead wildbird with AI near me. They only kill preventive, killed
>poultry wonīt be tested! In Brussels our Minister told, that penning-in
>canīt be a solution, but he donīt want to vaccine until the german
>vaccin is ready. Here they tell lies about the danger of vaccination to
>the press. They say, we would get AI inside poultry if we start with the
>available vaccins :(. They donīt tell anything about the possibility of
>quarantine, they donīt tell, that an outbreak in poultry and its culling
>would be much cheaper for them, than to start vaccination. Itīs a very
>mad situation here.
>
>Iīm so sad, but we still keep fighting, weīll never give up.
>
>Best regards,
>AL