The CLA petition calls on DEFRA "to resist the decision to implement sheep EID, as it would add disproportionate and significant practical and financial burdens to the industry in this country, threatening the very future of the industry while showing no benefit for the producer or consumer."
See also petition on the Prime Minister's website at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/sheepEID/
Warmwell has amassed many pages on the question of scrapie since first becoming aware in 2001 that reasons were being sought drastically to reduce sheep numbers in the UK. The justification for double tagging would seem to be based on the theory that sheep scrapie could be masking BSE ( This idea was exploded once and for all in January 2007 (Hansard) ).
No justification for double tagging exists. As those most knowledgeable try to explain, the present existing system of sheep identification, and batch recording of sheep movements, is an efficient and cost-effective way of controlling animal diseases .The Electronic Identification of sheep is due to become compulsory in January 2010 - what follows is just some of the comments and news posted on warmwell.com "......I could add many other issues to do with double-tagging of sheep, electronic identification and many more, but unless there is a clear benefit to be gained from a regulation, it is pointless. I question considerably the need for them, but the key point in this debate is that all those things restrict farming's ability to increase production..." James Paice 30 Jun 2008 HoC debate
"Anything that is likely to prove a great problem for the British sheep industry such as double-tagging and no burying will be supported by countries like France and Ireland who would dearly love our sheep meat market. Jeff Swift Over the Gate
news
August 21 2008 ~ EID threat could wipe out sheep farming and change the face of the countryside
As those most knowledgeable try to explain, the existing system of sheep identification, and batch recording of sheep movements, is an efficient and cost-effective way of controlling animal diseases. The EU's insistence on EID, due to come into force in January 2010, could force even more farmers out of business.
The Daily Post today says that EID trials are on-going on 14 farms in Wales,"but results have not been encouraging. Older farmers have struggled with the equipment, while the hardware and software produced by different companies has often been found to be incompatible. EID readers struggled to work in cold and wet conditions, and at markets and abattoirs equipment suffered electrical interference. At one of the country's largest abattoirs, a study found that, in perfect conditions, the equipment had a 93% success rate. It meant that, if EID was implemented, seven in every 100 sheep would have to be written off - probably more."
FUW vice president Glyn Roberts has an ongoing petition on the Prime Minister's website at http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/sheepEID/August 15 2008 ~ Double tagging - "threatening the very future of the industry while showing no benefit for the producer or consumer..."
Sheep born in 2008 and not intended for slaughter under 12 months of age have to be double tagged either by the age of nine months if extensively reared or when they leave the holding of birth. As the Cumberland News said last week:
"With the seasonal sales of breeding sheep just starting and the sales of gimmer ewe lambs just around the corner, it is first real test of whether sheep farmers are correctly identifying their animals. National Sheep Association chief executive Peter Morris said: "No-one in the sheep industry is happy that we now have to double tag our sheep that have been born in 2008 and which are not intended for slaughter as lambs. This adds cost and hassle to sheep producers at a busy time of the year and it is very difficult to understand what it achieves in terms of improving traceability."
The CLA agrees that this legislation will only add cost with no improvement in the traceability. The CLA petition calls on DEFRA "to resist the decision to implement sheep EID, as it would add disproportionate and significant practical and financial burdens to the industry in this country, threatening the very future of the industry while showing no benefit for the producer or consumer." See also belowJuly 12 2008 ~ Double Tagging "Defra is talking as if it has won the World Cup but it's not that clever..."
Concessions on the double tagging requirement have been announced by the government. Hilary Benn has postponed the start of the scheme from New Year 2008 to New Year 2010. Unkind commentators might suggest that this looks again like handing on the poisoned chalice to the Conservatives - just as with the miserable non action over bovine TB. The chief executive of the National Sheep Association, Peter Morris, is quoted in the Yorkshire Post: "Defra is talking as if it has won the World Cup but it's not that clever. The bureaucrats have agreed to stagger the pain of the introduction, but they haven't budged on the central idea."
As we have said many times now, the justification for double tagging was the notion that BSE lurked in sheep. That idea was exploded well over a year ago by quietly spoken words in Parliament (Hansard) itself - so why the continuing misery for both sheep and their owners?Tuesday 8 July 2008 ~ "more ripped ears and infections than I ever want to see again"
The Farm Animal Welfare Council (FAWC) launched its “Report on the implications of castration and tail docking for the welfare of lambs” (pdf) on June 30th which considers them "mutilations which should not be undertaken without strong justification". There might be thought strong justification presented by fly strike and the miserable effect of the maggoty wounds (see video on this Australian mulesing page). Chemical solutions can be highly toxic. Tail docking is illustrated by this extract from "Modern Farming" by S.Graham Brade-Birks (1950) where the experienced shepherd is explaining to the newcomer:
".....The smell of dung on sheep seems to give the blow fly the sign for which she is looking. ... We try to make these dirty trousers as small as possible by cutting their tails short. Can you suggest anything better?" (more)
If the government follows FAWC's recommendations how can the EU's implacable insistence on the double ear tagging, (and single tagging can cause severe welfare problems), be justified? As one emailer writes today: "I used a new tag manufacturer this year and have had more ripped ears and infections than I ever want to see again. I'm ashamed of the state of my animals ears and it's a constant source of worry with the fly strike season in full swing. Why doesn't this draw comments from the FAWC?"May 23 2008 ~ "many more farmers will abandon sheep production under the burden of yet more bureaucratic futility...."
Just at the very time we need to be securing home production comes the crazy Electronic Identification (EID) scheme in which every single sheep born after December 31, 2009 must be identified electronically and its every movement be recorded and reported.
In spite of the fact that the current system is more than capable of tracing sheep back to their original holding, the EU intends to impose this compulsory scheme in the UK in 2010. The Farmers Guardian today, under the headline Tagging scheme 'will add nothing' prints a letter from several high profile protestors who also ask that producers write to their MPs and MEPs"whilst accepting the need for traceability, express their total opposition to EID in principle, despite the fact that the legislation has already been enacted. This is a fundamental test of the democratic credibility of EU institutions, whether the Commission will seek to impose a measure on a member state which is purposeless, universally opposed and will cripple our industry." Read in full
Anyone can write to their MP or MEP at www.writetothem.comMarch 15 2008 ~ Revolt over double tagging
On the subject of the new double tagging legislation from Brussels, Jim Paice was quoted last week in the Herald, " I can't see the point of double-tagging. It doesn't produce any benefits for animal health or food safety.....legislation has to have a purpose and deliver real benefits or it simply wastes time and money." The Scotsman today reports that NFU Scotland has joined forces with the Scottish Farmer in a concerted effort to thwart double tagging -
"...a move which has the potential to cost the sheep sector well in excess of £10 million each year."
An electronic petition is being organised.
The hope is that all sheep farmers will log on to lodge their protest at www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/sheeptaggingpetitionMarch 2 2008 ~ "virtually the entire sheep industry, reckons that these plans are unworkable"
" ...major concerns over proposed EU legislation on sheep tagging." Scotsman
" As the rules currently stand, all sheep born after 18 January 2008 be double tagged before any movement to a sale or alternative grazing away from the main holding before they are nine months of age. However, if lambs are sent straight to slaughter, then only one tag is required. NFU Scotland, and virtually the entire sheep industry, reckons that these plans are unworkable and will deliver absolutely nothing in terms of the disease traceability currently achieved through a batch system. The batch regime has been shown to be robust and allowed every sheep to be traced within three days of last year's outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD) on 3 August."
(More on tagging)January 29 2008 ~ "No one can give any specific situations where recording the individual identities of sheep will show a benefit or will be required"
Peter Morris of the National Sheep Association on the subject of the compulsory double tagging rule that threatens the sheep sector (source):
" The extra costs that will be incurred will not be picked up by anyone else in the food chain and, with virtually every sheep farmer already losing money, for many it will be the final straw. ... All we hear time and time again is that there is a regulation in place and we have to obey it. What is the point when it does not offer benefit to anyone?"
The fear of BSE gave a sort of spurious justification for many EU measures costing millions. The specific fear about scrapie and vCJD can no longer be sustained. MEP Struan Stevenson warns that when we "have no industry left and rely on imported mutton and lamb" such imports will lack "the rigorous regulations and controls we impose on our own farmers."
And for how long can the UK import its food? EU culture commissioner Jan Figel may talk glibly of "our increasingly competitive, globalizing world" (source) but this is mere fiddling as Rome starts to smoulder. Richard Heinberg said bluntly last week ( See oil pages) , "Get thee to the productive side of the economy. Grow something, or learn to make or repair something useful."January 18 2008 ~ "Tagging wouldn't come close...."
At a time when livestock farming is at its lowest ebb and we discover that DEFRA really doesn't want to include farming in its remit any more and that the UK 's self-sufficiency can go hang, that there is apparently no money to spare to cushion the blow of massive losses caused to ordinary farmers through no fault of their own and EU regulations such as double tagging are imposed to further cause frustration and misery - we read this article by Matthew Norman in the Independent on a kind of surveillance that all except MPs themselves might well rejoice to see. (It may, at least, give some wry amusement.)
December 17 2007 ~ EU ministers agreed on Monday to introduce electronic tags for millions of sheep and goats across the European Union by the end of 2009
Reuters reports that "...Unique identifier codes are carried by the animal either on an eartag or inside its digestive tract. The identification number can then be read using either a portable or fixed electronic reader. Electronic identifiers cost between 1 and 2 euros ($1.43 and $2.87) per animal, while the minimum cost of hand-held readers is 200 euros and that of static readers 1,000 euros."
As we report below, the UK is very unhappy indeed - and the Yeovil Express last Saturday reported that Conservative MEP, Neil Parish, himself a former Somerset farmer, said: "It would be a real burden on UK sheep farmers if this legislation goes through now, even with the slight delay until 2010. We are simply not there yet with the technology needed to make this work. Cast ewes are worth only a few pounds, so how can farmers afford to tag them with microchips and purchase expensive readers? It is simply not feasible. The sheer number of sheep in the UK, combined with our specific topography, do not permit us to even contemplate such an astronomically costly system at this point in time."June 22 2007 ~ "...breeding for scrapie resistance has little or no impact on a number of commercial traits."
The Farmers Guardian quotes Kay Boulton of the Meat and Livestock Ciommission who said "Preliminary results from extensive research suggests breeding for scrapie resistance has little or no impact on a number of commercial traits, most importantly muscle depth, growth from birth to slaughter and reasons for death or disposal from a flock."
See the later paragraphs in the article "Don't miss chance to have your say on scrapie plan"
See also below where even Mr Bradshaw now reluctantly admits that the ram genotyping scheme - as many were warning from the start - is of no use and deserves no further funding.March 26 2007 ~ As for the reality of "surveillance"
this article from FWi called "The True Cost of Scrapie" is revealing both about the competence of parts of the SVS and about the viability of all the legislation rushed into place about scrapie.
"...once the sheep had been genotyped the SVS sent through the genotypes with incomplete identification numbers. The EID boluses used have 16-digit identification numbers, but the paperwork we received only had 15-digit numbers on. The missing digit was the last one, which meant we were unable to match up the EID numbers with our own tag numbers, making it impossible to identify ewes of different genotypes."
With only one scrapie-affected ewe out of more than 1700 sheep on the farm the farmers in the article wonder what on earth it is all for - and even whether the initial test was even right. In view of the most recent research and the fact that even the government now admits that scrapie does NOT mask BSE and the ram genotyping scheme is worthless, the answer seems to be "Nothing"March 21 2007 ~ "new life to the theory that mad cow disease started out in cattle, rather than crossing over from sheep."
The new research mentioned this week in the New Scientist carried out by the Italian scientist Fabrizio Tagliavini and his colleagues at the Carlo Besta Neurological Institute in Milan, suggests that the recently discovered disease called bovine amyloidotic spongiform encephalopathy, or BASE, is a natural prion disease of older cattle, which turned into BSE - and that all the speculation about scrapie "masking" BSE or having caused BSE may now be wholly discredited .
As we say below, all attempts to duplicate BSE by deliberately giving scrapie to cows have failed - and ministers have finally accepted that a fully-funded ram-genotyping scheme (costing a great deal in money and misery) is no longer "appropriate". SEAC defended the RGS as "an appropriate disease control policy based on the available scientific evidence..." (Defra ) - but the advice of Dr Alan Dickenson - independent expert scientific advice, given in January 2001 - was certainly available. A major recommendation of the Select Committee on Science and Technology Seventh Report was that the so-called precautionary principle should "never be considered a substitute for thorough risk analysis which is always required when the science is uncertain and the risks are serious. It should not be used, in itself, to explain a decision or course of action."
(The assumption that BSE came from cows eating scrapie-infected sheep, discredited above, is very similar to the unproven conjecture that vCJD is caused by humans eating BSE-infected beef. Massive layers of legislation and bureaucracy based on that continue on their juggernaut path. See also Harriet - where the government's clinging to the precautionary principle is an evident absurdity)February 2 2007 ~ National Scrapie Plan - Ram Genotyping . "Closure of the scheme"?
Hansard
Ben Bradshaw "... the prevalence of BSE in the UK sheep population is most likely zero, or very low if present at all, and consequently the current RGS would have little impact on public health.
In 2004 we quoted a Welsh breeder who saw that breed quality was being threatened by the scrapie eradication programme:
Ministers have accepted the review's key recommendation that a fully-funded RGS is therefore no longer appropriate. Instead, Departments should consult on options for the future of the RGS - either a cost-shared genotyping scheme, or closure of the scheme...."" I was up on the hills the other day and I was thinking how my flock was a picture of perfect health. So why do we need to start meddling and take something from our ewes simply to stop something I have never seen in my life? Often the best rams are not group 1 scrapie-resistant but group 2 or 3. I've bought a group 1 ram this year but I've also bought two group 2s. I see a lot of people buying inferior rams just because they're group 1, and that cannot be good for the future of a breed."
January 11 2007 ~ "the prevalence of BSE in the UK sheep population is most likely to be zero, or very low if present at all."
"Experts'" warning of the need to destroy the entire national flock of 36 million sheep because of the merely conjectural and unscientific assumption of a link between scrapie and BSE have now to accept the findings of the VLA. Mr Bradshaw himself has been obliged to admit that, "the prevalence of BSE in the UK sheep population is most likely to be zero, or very low if present at all." (Hansard) But who will dismantle the mountain of regulations about scrapie resting the molehill of a wrong assumption? Or even dare to report it?
June 14 2006 ~ "....a message of this kind will create serious difficulties for sheep farmers at a time when they least need further problems from government agencies"
It is with dismay that we see Valerie Elliot's article in today's Times on so-called "atypical" scrapie in which she is virtually telling people that avoiding
"mutton, goat and some sausages is the only way to reduce the risks from a new animal brain disease"
as if the existence of such a "new animal disease" had been proven. "The advice from the Food Standards Agency," she asserts, "raises the most serious concern about the safety of the meat since the discovery of "mad cow" disease in cattle."
What, again?
As in the past, the Food Standards Agency has apparently thought fit to tell consumers that it "could not rule out" a risk to human health from "the brain disease atypical scrapie, which is similar to BSE."
What sort of journalism is this? What does the FSA imagine will be the effect of their warning? As we report elsewhere, the uncertainties about "atypical scrapie" are legion, as are the uncertainties about the very nature of spongiform encephalopathies and the route of infection of vCJD - the bogey behind all the millions in research grants, mounds of regulation and wasted animal lives.
During the past five years that this website has been running we have become aware of what seems an ongoing attempt to use the threat of vCJD to make a deep impression on consumers - eagerly taken up by the press. Questions about the literally thousands of millions spent "guarding" against vCJD may perhaps be quelled by such articles - but exploiting people's ignorance and fear without giving the whole picture is a disgraceful state of affairs. vCJD is a very nasty and heartbreaking disease but it is also one in which the number of confirmed deaths in the UK - ever - is 111.
The fells are being quietly but inexorably depopulated of sheep, rare breeds are threatened and diminished, the National Scrapie Plan is turning out to be creating as many problems as its extermination clauses set out to "cure" - perhaps it would be a great deal simpler for those responsible if the population no longer want sheep either. Those such as the Prince of Wales who are trying to bring about a renaissance in mutton eating are once again stymied by preudo-scientific scaremongering by the Food Standards Agency - and the nation's sheep farmers are, once again, likely to be filled with the deepest gloom." Peter Ainsworth, the Conservative rural affairs spokesman, said: "We need to be cautious about any threat to human health. But there is a real danger that a message of this kind will create serious difficulties for sheep farmers at a time when they least need further problems from government agencies. It's incredibly important that the FSA behaves in a measured and appropriate manner."
See Times website for the article by Valerie Elliot. See also New Zealand's concern /www.stuff.co.nzApril 12 2006 ~ National Scrapie Plan " the VRQ allele, currently being eliminated under the NSP, appears to confer resistance to this strain of the disease."
The Farmer's Weekly quotes Dr Matthew Baylis of Liverpool University
"Should we end up with a national flock where one genotype dominates then we could find future scrapie problems are far greater than we have ever seen. "
The article should be read in full.March 9 2006 ~ "Can the Minister please explain why, in a situation such as that surrounding scrapie, BSE, CJD or foot and mouth disease, the Government seem to turn to scientists who are not regarded by their peers as experts in the area while ignoring those who are?"
The Countess of Mar has once again shown her deep concern about the "scientific" advice being given to the government. In Tuesday's debate she again warns about both the the unscientific nature and the over-prescription of the government's TSE regulations. Genuine experts such as Alan Dickinson warned 20 years ago that measures to reduce scrapie should avoid genetical extremes. The advice was ignored and the so-called "atypical scrapie" cases are now found in the very genotypes actually being selected by the National Scrapie Plan as being "resistant". Of even graver significance is the fact that the Regulations of 2002 were, in the first place, "based on the widespread assumption that a rogue isoform of a protein designated PrP - called prion protein by some - causes TSEs. That hypothesis is unsupported by rigorous analysis and substantial data contradict it."
The transcript of the debate makes for deeply disturbing reading. The Countess of Mar politely and painstakingly dissects the illogical, inconsistent and weirdly worded regulations, concluding moreover that"I want the Minister to know that I am extremely concerned that all regulation in this field is based on a hypothesisnot even a theorythat none of the "establishment" scientific community can prove, despite millions of pounds of taxpayers' money being thrown at the subject.... . " Read in full
March 6 2006 ~ "One certain thing is that we have been eating scrapied sheep for 200 years and nobody has come to any harm." Professor Hugh Pennington
We read in the Sunday Herald that "vCJD expert Dr Stephen Dealler" are once again raising the spectre of scrapie in sheep somehow masking BSE. An atypical form of scrapie has been found in 108 cases but there is no evidence that it is any more harmful to humans than scrapie itself. " The worry is, of course, that atypical scrapie will be infectious to humans, but we don't know," Dr Dealler is reported as saying, adding "..should we, in this wait-and-see period, be taking more aggressive action?"
A European wide programme to eradicate sheep and goats susceptible to scrapie was given justification by fear of vCJD. Such public fear has been increased by speculation in the press of a "timebomb" disease - (whose numbers have in fact dwindled with 17 cases in 2002 and 18 last year and 142 deaths globally overall.) - by the death of one elderly patient who died of causes unrelated to vCJD but in whose spleen an abnormal prion protein was found; an incident publicised only five years later in August 2004.
While research grants are the life blood of science and "wait-and-see" periods may be rather lean, it seems nevertheless that the so-called "timebomb" disease of vCJD hardly merits all this scaremongering. The ever-dwindling number of deaths due to definite or probable vCJD in the UK during the 12 months of 2005 remains 5. The peak number of deaths was 28 in the year 2000, followed by 20 in 2001, 17 in 2002, 18 in 2003, 9 in 2004, 5 in 2005, and one so far in 2006. (Figures from ProMed.)
BBC: Professor Ironside "I'm not in the business of scaremongering....."
Professor John Collinge : "There is considerable uncertainty over how this will unfold. ....."
21st October 2005 ~ Another "heresy" about rogue prions
The Daily Mail reports on US and Japanese research (led by Professor Laura Manuelidis, from Yale) in the journal Science suggesting that BSE, variant CJD in humans, and other kindred diseases are most probably caused by a virus. They also suggest that persistent infection by a "weak" CJD strain protected cells from infection by a more virulent and potentially lethal form of CJD. It also prevented infection by two versions of the sheep TSE disease, scrapie.
The government National Scrapie Plan carries on regardless of uncertainty.
20/21 February 2005 ~ Here and in Europe, the National Scrapie Plan rolls on - in spite of serious worries.
A symposium about TSEs to be held in Montana, co-sponsorored by the Rocky Mountain Laboratories, however, accepts that there are many more questions than answers. See Billingsgazette.com "....Much remains to be discovered about prion diseases. Scientists are investigating how and why normal prion protein molecules transform into abnormal forms that clump together and attack brain tissue, destroying portions of the brain and leaving "spongy" gaps. Scientists believe prion diseases might be linked to similar neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's."
October 29 - November 4 2004 ~ All farmers who report and have a confirmed case of the Scrapie in their flock will now have to cull the whole flock
or blood test the flock to determine its genetic profile.
Enforcement of the EU regulation requiring Member States to "take action on sheep flocks and goat herds that report scrapie" began on Monday. We can only repeat the words of Wales' top breeder of hardy Welsh Mountain sheep, Goronwy Edwards (he trades as JH Edwards & Sons):"I have been breeding Welsh Mountain rams for 50 years and I have never seen this disease. I was up on the hills the other day and I was thinking how my flock was a picture of perfect health. So why do we need to start meddling and take something from our ewes simply to stop something I have never seen in my life? Often the best rams are not group 1 scrapie-resistant but group 2 or 3. I've bought a group 1 ram this year but I've also bought two group 2s. I see a lot of people buying inferior rams just because they're group 1, and that cannot be good for the future of a breed."
Once again, the bleak dogma of treating disease by killing healthy animals, with its roots in politics rather than veterinary science, and hedged about with unintelligible legislation, is threatening UK livestock farming. Notifiable disease is surely less likely to be "notified" when farmers are so wary of and weary of the reams of paper and rules and forms pouring out of the Ministry. Quiet burial of the evidence is far more likely. See also icnorthwales.co.uk. Warmwell has amassed many pages on the scrapie question since first becoming aware in 2001 that there was a serious intention drastically to reduce sheep numbers.
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... investigations I also came across information about BSE/vCJD, scrapie, and indirectly ...
been exposed to the infectious prion proteins that cause variant CJD...". ...
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... that only one in ten systems tested, was capable of deactivating the scrapie/BSE
agent. ... is now known as vCJD, the first person ever to suffer from CJD was just ...
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... equivalent - variant CJD. There were just too many radical flaws blighting the
hypothesis that bovine ingestion of micro doses of scrapie-contaminated MBM lead ...
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... hundred years. Detailed studies had shown not a scintilla of evidence
for a connection between scrapie and classical CJD. So it ...
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... am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord. There is still no proven connection
between BSE and CJD or between scrapie and BSE or CJD. ...
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... See more on the BSE/CJD page ... He added: "It is a more robust package of BSE and scrapie
measures designed to bring us into line with EU regulations." We wonder ...
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... immune reactions in the brain during scrapie infection ... My 1976 initiative concerning
the contamination of human growth hormone. with CJD agent (see paragraph [52 ...
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... 90/424/EEC: Council Decision -compensation for vaccinated animals.
CJD/BSE/Scrapie..the truth? High Court judgement in full. Anger ...
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... And once the Animal Health Bill is in place, and they've got some flimsy evidence
for a link between scrapie and CJD, they'll come again for those.'. ...
www.warmwell.com/observerfeb10.html - 24k -Cached - Similar pages From Jane at the Farmtalking website:
... Some sheep have suffered from Scrapie for generations and humans have eaten the
meat with no ... The only certainty is that the disease BSE and CJD and vCJD are ...
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... The reason that BSE, Cjd and scrapie are all related to the prion theory
is that it is totally corrupt science. If the alternative ...
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... The whole thing is based on a fallacy. Scrapie has no known adverse effect on human
health. No links between scrapie and CJD have been demonstrated. ...
www.warmwell.com/aboutjuly25.html - 101k -Cached - Similar pages The last two days have seen many concerned people, including ...
... Scrapie cannot be proved to have any link with BSE - which in turn cannot be proved
to cause CJD - yet the bill is hoping to ride on the current whipped up ...
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... eat their scrapie affected sheep (brains included) immediately the first symptoms
of this rapid wasting disease are recognised. Yet, no cases of CJD have ever ...
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... science and I shall also take up that issue. There is no real scientific
proof of the link between BSE and CJD or BSE and scrapie. ...
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... Greger, who is on a cross-country tour raising awareness of CJD and warning ... EXTENSION
OF RULES FOR HILL RAMS IN NATIONAL SCRAPIE PLAN DEFRA News Release Sept ...
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... pesticide inputs required for growing grass to produce meat and milk. ....
Read more from Mark Purdey on the CJD/BSE/scrapie page.
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... The scrapie agent in the feed merely represented an ideal misappropriated scapegoat
for ... I have researched in the US involved the development of CJD in the ...
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Sheep threat fenced out Estimates of CJD risk from sheep remain woolly. ... assumes that
BSE can spread from sheep to sheep in the same way as scrapie, a similar ...
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... BSE is assumed to be infectious and to be the cause of CJD in humans. ... practices would
have on the infectious agents behind both BSE and scrapie, a similar ...
www.warmwell.com/upbeatoc21.htm - 28k -Cached - Similar pages In a letter to the Telegraph (unpublished at the time of going to ...
... 100 people have died as a result of the tragic horror of variant CJD. ... Primarily,
they bring together key domestic controls on BSE and scrapie which have grown ...
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... Furthermore, this finding was not a surprise because the work with scrapie in mice
had ... for example on occasion by leading members of SEAC." ( BSE/CJD page) ...
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... called Deadly Feasts Science and the Hunt for the Answers in the CJD Crisis by ... MATERNAL
TRANSMISSION I know this from girl working on BSE and Scrapie in DEFRA ...
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BSE Inquiry / Statement No 23 Scheduled to give evidence on 02/04 ...
... as first identified, my actions and statements about BSE and nv CJD and the ... The officials
said this was because the scrapie-contaminated food was banned in 1988 ...
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... scaremonger, threatening millions of people with the possibility of contracting
CJD from eating ... I am not against the eradication of scrapie from our flock but ...
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... crystals theory explains the presence of florid plaques surrounded by a halo of
spongiform change in the cortex of vCJD brain (Courtesy of CJD Surveillance Unit ...
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... scrapie is a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy similar to BSE in cattle that
has been linked with more than 130 cases of the fatal human variant CJD" and ...
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... There is also no proven link between BSE and CJD. She ... Scientific opinion
on TSEs includes the need to monitor BSE and scrapie. There ...
www.warmwell.com/dec30innocent.html - 17k -Cached - Similar pages Extracts from the speeches of some of the speakers in the Second ...
... date, there has been no sound scientific evidence that either sheep scrapie or meat ...
We have no sound scientific evidence that variant CJD is caused by eating ...
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... claim that the BSE strain originated on many occasions from scrapie strains being ...
no other explanation other than BSE as the cause of variant CJD is considered ...
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... Slaughter, enforcement and the scrapie powers linked to the Act are due to come
into ... because it is feared they may be contaminated by variant CJD, BBC Radio ...
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... Ministers are concerned that scrapie in sheep is under-reported and are desperate
to get ... Japanese researchers create prion antibody to help CJD, BSE Kyodo News. ...
www.warmwell.com/newarchive.html - 101k -Cached - Similar pages essential reading
... V TOP http://www.warmwell.com/ventersoct12.html. LINKS between vCJD...BSE....scrapie....
. and research grants. ... Charles backs controversial CJD research Telegraph ...
www.warmwell.com/essential.html - 101k -Cached - Similar pages INBOX warmwell April - Mid August 2004
... Aug 3 ~ The Journal reports that the National Scrapie Plan has now collected over
one million blood samples from over 21,000 flock visits."... ...
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... He added: "It is a more robust package of BSE and scrapie measures designed to ... the
time: "We still do not know how many people might be incubating variant CJD. ...
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... scientific knowledge to safely proceed with any move to eliminate scrapie-resistant
genotypes ... dealing in the attempts made to stifle his research into BSE/CJD. ...
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... October 22 - Oct 29 2004 ~ breed quality is being threatened by Wales's scrapie
eradication programme..."So why do we need to start meddling?". ...
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... of the Medical Research Council's prion unit, who discovered that variant CJD was
the ... issues." ENDS 26 October 2001 Ministers plan ram cull in scrapie fight By ...
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